Re: [-empyre-] (forwarded from Jaka Zeleznikar) Ana Maria Uribe

"arteonline" <arteonline@arteonline.arq.br> · Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:02:00 -0300

Dear Marjorie,

Thanks a lot for your information about preservation of our digital culture.
I think your words  were very enlightening to all of us. It is also very
important to know that PAD is thinking about this so seriously.

You said:

"Just a start here - but I would like to assist in any way possible with the
archive that will be constructed for Ana Maria - and help other writers and
artists who wish to prepare archives of their work."

Once more thank you and of course we will need your knowledge about this.

Warmest regards,

Regina

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marjorie C. Luesebrink" <luesebr1@ix.netcom.com>
To: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 1:35 AM
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] (forwarded from Jaka Zeleznikar) Ana Maria Uribe

> Dear Regina, Jim, Jaka, all -
>
> I have been following the empyre discussions all along with much
interest -
> and, too, was saddened to hear about the death of Ana Maria -
> but so glad to see an effort by all of her fellow artists to see what can
be
> done about bringing her work together for posterity!
>
> Regina and I have had some discussions about Preservation and Archiving -
> especially in the light of the wonderful Project Attic (Regina and Reiner
> Strasser) - and I want to thank them for keeping the preservation issue in
the
> foreground - it's important for our community to solve this problem in a
way
> that respects the important aspects of our art.
>
> As some of you may know, ELO began a project almost two years ago called
PAD
> (Preservation, Archiving, and Dissemination).  the PAD project was
envisioned as
> a way to begin the process of saving e-lit and new media work into the
future.
> Much of our early effort was investigation and research by a group of
writers,
> programmers, librarians, scholars, curatorial experts, and publishers to
see
> what practices existed and what needed to be done.  Our conclusion was
that we
> needed to build a comprehensive network of libraries and organizations to
house
> the archive (much digital preservation work is being undertaken, but not
much of
> it takes into account the specific demands of multi-media electronic
work).  We
> also needed  to begin to set up practices to retreive older works and
guidelines
> for future work.  Although we had hoped to secure the (sizable) funding to
> accomplish this all at once, it now looks as though ELO does not have the
proper
> institutional grounding to do this alone - so we are working on sections
of the
> problem, hoping to build a wider network as a basis for support and
funding.
>
> The process of collecting and curating Ana Maria's work will provide a
very
> important example for all of us.  I do hope that one individual who has
access
> to the files and knows the work will take up the task of doing this right
away -
>
> and I would like to be kept current on how the job proceeds, the kinds of
> problems that arise, and what solutions are reached.  Even if PAD succeeds
in
> establishing a central repository and some sort of emulation system that
will
> allow continued access to older softwares, the initial task of collecting
and
> organizing the work is best attended to by the author or a close
associate.
>
> Right now, the most important thing is to gather as much work as possible
> together and begin an archive that includes these features:
> 1.  Copies of all electronic works saved on CD ROM (regardless of
platform -
> that may have to be worked out later) -
> but documented by a word.doc that lets future archivers know what
platform, what
> kind of machine it was meant to run on, etc.
> 2.  Any hard copy articles and photos that can be gathered.
> 3.  "Reading Experience" documents from readers and/or audiences.
(explaining
> how they reacted to the work)
> 4.  Raw data files of text, sound, image that might be associated with the
work
> (these can be critical in "re-building" works).
> 5.  Video that might exist of the work on display or being accessed on
computer.
>
> 6.  Author's statements or notes about the how and why of a piece.
> 7.  Screen shots of each work.
>
> In general, museums like to have three copies of all works - so if you
can, when
> you begin to make an archive, save three copies.
>
> Just a start here - but I would like to assist in any way possible with
the
> archive that will be constructed for Ana Maria - and help other writers
and
> artists who wish to prepare archives of their work.  Noah Wardrip-Fruin
and Nick
> Montfort have written a booklet for PAD outlining some practices for
making
> material accessible longer; this will be released in the next few months,
and we
> would encourage all of you to help us circulate these suggestions!
>
> Always, Margie Luesebrink
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> arteonline wrote:
>
> > Hello Jim and Jaka and all,
> >
> > I would like to say that to think about the preservation of our digital
> > culture is really very important. The tribute to Ana Maria is just
> > beggining, I am sure that step by step we will find solutions to the
files
> > that are missing. However the most important is to imagine what will
happen
> > with this files in 2024, for example, it will be possible to see them,
will
> > we have softwares able to open it?
> >
> > The Project Attic, by Reiner Strasser and me just try to call  attention
for
> > this possible problem. However I think that perhaps  ELO  is just
looking
> > for solutions about this. Perhaps Marjorie C. Luesebrink can say
anything to
> > us. Is she in this list?
> >
> > I would like to add that  in the Attic we have a work by Ana Maria
Uribe. It
> > was build just for the Attic and there she shows all her capacity of
> > sophisticated synthesis which is so peculiar in her work. We will meet
> > there, for example, an incredible animated zipper made only of   the
letters
> > V   and   I .
> >
> > http://arteonline.arq.br/museu/attic/uribe.html
> >
> > If you wan to see the work in popup windows, without menubars, browser
at:
> >
> > http://arteonline.arq.br/museu/attic/introattic.htm
> >
> > In this page you will find this text of Reiner :
> >
> > "In the corner of a room is sitting my old computer with all the stuff I
> > have created on it. Is it a real art object? Wouldn't it be the right
> > instrument to play the art created on it, the right way to present and
> > preserve it? --- Now it is virtually placed and visible in the Attic, a
> > spaceless gallery of the Museum of the essential and beyond that."
> >
> > (Reiner Strasser)
> >
> > It is really very important to think about this.
> >
> > Regina
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Andrews" <jim@vispo.com>
> > To: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 10:02 PM
> > Subject: RE: [-empyre-] (forwarded from Jaka Zeleznikar) Ana Maria Uribe
> >
> > >
> > > > I hope her whole web work is saved and backuped, web servers tend to
> > > > disappear (maybe not a time to write this but I think it's
important).
> > >
> > > Hi Jaka,
> > >
> > > I have asked her brother what her wishes are for her site and her work
> > more
> > > generally.
> > >
> > > I have compared the English versions of http://amuribe.tripod.com (her
> > site)
> > > and http://vispo.com/uribe (the mirror she made on my site). There are
a
> > > couple of pieces missing on the mirror. There are also a couple of
pieces
> > > missing in the Spanish mirror.
> > >
> > > Regina and I and, no doubt, some others each have a copy of the CD she
> > made
> > > of her site some time ago, which is done with Director, so it is an
> > > executable, ie, it is not html, unlike her site, so there are two
forms in
> > > which her work can be viewed: html (through the browser) and
executable
> > (not
> > > through the browser). I haven't yet compared the CD with her site to
see
> > how
> > > complete it is.
> > >
> > > ja
> > >
> > >
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> M.D. Coverley
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